Well your grammar leaves something to be desired too but since I’m not about policing people according to any arguably oppressive prescriptive grammar I’ll refrain from marking up your post. What I’m concerned with here is your inability to have an open mind when ive got no issue with YOUR viewpoint. Look peaches, I source my meat and milk from local (This is HER BABY.
That she has the right to bear on her own
YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO RIP IT FROM HER AT BIRTH.
Just so you can STEAL THAT BABY’S MILK.
It isn’t yours to take.
She isn’t a machine.
This is HER life. Her baby.
it’s really just that simple.
Well but it’s not that simple because she didn’t choose to have it either. Don’t get me wrong factory farming blows but there are ways to get cow’s milk without supporting the veal industry or the mega-farms.
maybe she didn’t choose to have the baby, but her anguish is no less when they rip her newborn away from her. The only way cows produce milk is by being constantly impregnated. There is no milk without cruelty.
Welp you can have yr opinions and I’ll have mine but I’ve got local dairy farmer friends with happy grass-fed cows that get to keep their babies and they are bffs with their people soooooo.
Dear God, your grammar is atrocious, and you fail to actually make a legitimate point in your statement. They still force pregnancy, I do not care where you are, cows HAVE to be continually pregnant in order to produce enough milk to meet demands. Cows are not a resource, they are a living sentient creature, who feels pain, and anguish.
Besides, dairy isn’t even good for us, we are the ONLY species to drink milk past infancy, not to mention that we steal it from another creature. You can not milk a cow efficiently and leave enough milk for her calf, you’re effectively stealing that babies milk.
So no, your happy little cows aren’t happy, they are still only dairy machines to you.
There is no open mind when it comes to the exploitation of another living creature, I don’t care where you get your meat or dairy, there is no way to get ethically or humanely. It always results in the death, or violation of an animal. I’m sorry, but unless a cow comes to you, tells you to milk her, force her to be pregnant, and rip away her baby, it isn’t with her consent, and is rape.
“Local sources” mean nothing when it comes to killing animals, it will never be justified by where you get it. THERE IS NO WAY TO HUMANELY KILL AN ANIMAL. Kill =/= humane. And that will never change, so stop pretending you have a moral compass while scarfing down the deceased flesh of a sentient creature.
Well looks like my phone was eating my posts, so that’s fun. Anyway, though, here’s the thing that you missed: what do you want for cows, then? They’ve been domesticated for 5000-8000 years, they’re terrible for the environment and for any sort of plant-based agriculture (with the exception of their manure, but keep a cow on crop land and it’s not crop land for long). I’m not suggesting you eat them or their byproducts, obviously, that’s your choice - but I’m curious what you want for these sentient creatures who have a right to their own children. Set them all free?
And since cows can’t consent either, it’s kind of problematic for you to call anything about it rape. I would argue it’s insulting to human survivors, but since you’re all for peace, love, and equality I’m sure you’re aware of that. Do you really imagine that wild heifers would just get in the mood sometime to get some and raise her own family of 2.5 calfs with a picket fence and a golden retriever?
I’ve got all sorts of problems with the meat industry and the dairy industry. But your original post is ludicrous. A cow may not be a machine but she is a domesticated animal. And though it’s not right to factory farm dairy, I don’t see any problem with small dairy farms. Clearly you’ve had very little personal experience with a sustainable dairy farm.
I’ll keep scarfing down my dead cows that lived a happy life and were killed humanely. You keep doing what you do. I’ve got half a dead steer in my freezer, and I met him this summer shortly before he was slaughtered on the same farm he lived for his entire life (6 years, by the way). Where he was grass fed and had access to shelter and more pasture than he knew what to do with. So, really, what’s the problem with that? Besides the obvious environmental issues that cows pose just by existing, but clearly you don’t want to just wipe the species off the face of the planet. So what do you suggest we do with cows, if not what I do with cows, which is a humane alternative to factory farmed, grain-fed (/cattle-fed) beef.
I suppose you’re against both human and pet euthanasia, then, if there’s no humane way to kill?
